Diana and Andrew have guest Nug Nahrgang (from the Illusionoid podcast) sitting in as our first ever return guest! This week as part of Joker month we're talking about the return of Mark Hamill to the role in Batman: The Killing Joke. Did a comic book from 1988 need to be made with no updating, should Hollywood even be trying to make Alan Moore comics into movies, and why is this two terrible movies shoved together?

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